Transcript for Episode 2: Alternate Universes, Awkward Romances, and Plenty of Penguins feat. Lucia Kelly

ITA Episode 2

Talia Franks:  Hello, and welcome to yet another episode of, Into the Archives, the monthly fanfiction podcast, where I Talia Franks discuss fan fanfiction with a special guest and entertain them with a rendition of my latest trip into the fanfic archives. Today I’m with special guest Lucia Kelly.  Lucia is an arts student with a primary focus on the relationship between reality and fiction and how they interact and influence each other.

 She’s written critique and analysis on a variety of different media, including the 100, Doctor Who, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Harry Potter, and Anne of Green Gables, both the Netflix adaptation Anne with an E, as well as the original book series. She’s currently working on several projects, one of which we’ll talk about later, which will continue to explore how genre fiction impacts our everyday lives.

Lucia. It’s great having you on here.

Lucia Kelly: It’s great to be here,

  Talia Franks: Hello there. This is Talia from the future dropping in from outer space with a quick note before we get going. There were some errors when recording this episode that led to a loss in audio quality in a few spots. So rude of my mic! I’ve tried to make up for it, but I recommend looking at the transcript at intothearchivespod.com if you get confused at any point. Did you know, by the way, that I have transcripts of all of my episodes? That’s enough from me, I’m sure you want to hear more from Talia and Lucia.

  Lucia Kelly: very exciting.

Talia Franks: And I did pronounce your name correctly, right?

Lucia Kelly: You did well done. Yes. Lucia like fuchsia.

Talia Franks: Yeah,

Lucia Kelly: that’s what I tell everyone.

Talia Franks:  I’ve been trained by reading your username. 

Lucia Kelly: No. Yeah. It’s literally become like; I just make that everything, so people know straight off.

Talia Franks: Yeah, Lucia like fuchsia. It’s like fantastic, because I was totally mispronouncing your name in my head before I saw that.

Lucia Kelly: Well, it’s not you weren’t mispronouncing it. You would just pronouncing it the way, like, 60% of Lucia’s or Lucia’s or Lucia’s or Lucia’s all pronounce, there’s a billion different pronunciations that everyone has their own special thing.

Talia Franks: Yeah. So, yeah, so before we get started talking about the particular fanfic that I picked out for us today, I want to talk about you. Now. We’ve already talked about names, but I have a few more questions to ask.  So, and I already I use, she pronouns in your bio but I just want to

Lucia Kelly: Yep

Talia Franks: clarify you.

Lucia Kelly: Yep, no, she/her

Talia Franks: and now what was your first fandom? What are your current fandoms? What is your general relationship to fanfic? And what is your favorite fanfic?

Lucia Kelly: Oh, my goodness. Okay. Whew. My very first fandom, like the one that I was totally like properly active in and like, Oh, this is thing is probably The 100.

So, in terms of, texts that have a fan base, it would have been Harry Potter, but like I wasn’t ever part of the community there. That was just me reading it on my own. Enjoying it, loving it, creating a very complicated relationship with it as more and more stuff came out about JK Rowling and how terrible she is and sort of being like, Oh, dang. (laughs)

But in terms of, actually being part of the community and making friends and learning about the richness that comes from interacting with people about media. It was definitely the The 100. And then, so, the first question was which fandom was first and then the second was, what am I most active right now. Is probably Buffy which is really fun. My mom and I are currently watching it for the very first time together, which is really cute. We’re watching Buffy and Angel together in the order they were released. And it’s so interesting given that it’s like, it was such a phenomenon and it impacted so much of how we think about all kinds of issues, but also how we actually create media and how we portray fantasy and like the vampires in particular, but all kinds of different, lore it was so impactful.

And so, it’s really fun going back to this 20-year-old series and being like, huh, that’s how they did that. Interesting.

   Lucia from the future here. So, we recorded this episode, literally just before all of the controversy, all the new controversy about Joss Whedon came out. I just want to make myself very clear. I do not support Joss Whedon.

I think that he has been a terrible human and that he should be better. However, there is a huge problem within fan communities about purity culture. Buffy is so much bigger than Joss Whedon Buffy is what we make of it. It’s what it means to us. Just like any other media or entertainment that reaches an audience.

Every piece of entertainment is a conversation between the creator and the recipient. And also, it is very important to remember that any TV show, any media is so much bigger than the person who created it, or the person who like came up with the idea first, every single episode of Buffy, everything related to Buffy, had hundreds of thousands of people connected to it that made that show possible to quit a piece of media because of one person actually gives more power to that one person. And it takes power away from you. The capacity to be like, Hey, you’re a horrible person and I no longer want to support you or, perpetuate your views does not mean that the thing you made does not mean a lot to me and still means things to me. And I think that the project itself is worth way more than you. So, I’m going to hold onto the project, and you can fuck off. And that’s my sense. So, enjoy what you enjoy. Keep yourself safe, hold people accountable and be happy.

the third question was.

Talia Franks: What’s your relationship to fanfic?

Lucia Kelly:  So, relationship to fanfic. I love fanfic. I think it’s such a brilliant way for people to interact with the things that they love and an exploration of how worlds interact and how characters work like so much of fanfic gets this reputation thing “Oh, it’s all about sex.” And it’s not at the heart of it. It’s really like the vast majority of fanfiction is about really deep, intricate character work, which is so fun. Because fanfiction has this sort of liminal space where it’s in this sense of  mid canon, it’s not looked at or approved of by the people who create it, but it goes right in between that sort of relationship between the creator and the consumer to create this medium space where all of these creative juices and creative energies get melded together and these interpretations of characters, these interpretations of spaces, these interpretations of relationships get blossom in this way that allow for more people to see them and interact with them.

I have spent many, a long night reading fanfic into the night. I was particularly I like it’s interesting how.

Like, so for instance, The 100, right? The 100 is a Sci-Fi show. It’s apocalyptic, many bad things happen in it. And so, the vast majority of fanfic is actually AU, like, there is more AU work that has them like in coffee shops or college, or like teachers looking after students and You know, haunted houses, but it’s really a romance.

So don’t worry. And all of this stuff where it’s like the, the actual world that this show comes from is so dark and deals with so many topics already that the creative work is, almost entirely separate from it. And it really becomes what would this same character that we know and see this universe, what would they be like if we put them in something completely different?

And it’s such an interesting way of seeing what people think the core elements of a character are and like, what is it that, across universes, is always true for this character? Like what is it that no matter what you do to them will always be to them? And, yeah, that’s fascinating to me.

Talia Franks: Glad to hear you say that because the fic that I chose for you today is an AU fic.

Lucia Kelly: WONDERFUL! Yay!

And the fourth question was,

Talia Franks: Do you have a favorite fanfic right now.

Lucia Kelly: Oh, my goodness.

I think. Like the one that I always go back to is this incredible, it’s a duology and it’s The 100 AU. And it’s called. It’s trying to find it. The first one is called How to Save a Life. I’m pretty sure. And the second one is called How to Save a Kingdom.  But basically, it’s incredible. It’s a reincarnation AU, which we love (Talia overlaps saying “Oh definitely”) and it, and

Talia Franks: I love reincarnation AUs.

Lucia Kelly: Yes. So, it’s marvelous. So, what happens is The 100, so the two main characters Bellamy and Clarke.

So, within the actual world of the show, they’re like, Co-leaders and they have an incredibly complicated and very yummy relationship. That’s just delicious to dive into. And we won’t talk about how that show ended because it was terrible. (Talia laughs) But let’s just say that Clarke and Bellamy have the Zutara problem, and we’ll leave it at that.

And so, but in this. In this fanfic what happens is you sort of go through all of these different eras and all of these different relationships so that it starts off in like, 1100s, Byzantium, and then basically Bellamy’s died, and Clarke takes Bellamy to a genie and is like, like bring him back. Basically, like I want him back.

 So, it opens with Bellamy’s death. And the Genie is, like muahahaha and it’s like, of course I’ll bring him back finger snap. And he still dead   and Clarke’s like what the fuck? And the Genie’s like Oh, I brought him back, I brought him back, but I brought him back in like the next life. Like he’s gonna just come back every time and Clarke’s like, you bitch, like that’s, you know, that’s not what I wanted.

And so, the Genie was like, okay, I’ll make it work for you too. You can always come back too, like, you guys will always be like alive in the same like space, but you won’t know each other. Until this like very particular thing happens and I won’t spoil what the very particular thing is, but like basically they’ll always be in the same universe, but they’ll kind of just always, just be missing each other unless they connect. And so, you see them through all of this time. So, like they’ll have they’ll live full, complete lives and die and then come back again. But they’ll always be in each other’s orbit. And so, you see them through all of these different eras of times exploring completely different relationships each time, because they’re always at different ages or they’re in different relationships or they might have like a position of power over the other, depending on who they are. And so, you see them again and again and again, in all of these different situations, which is. Like I’ve just said kryptonite to me. Like, I love all of that.

So, you’ve got that in How to Save a Life. And then the duology is How to Save a Kingdom. And after you’ve gone through all of these gorgeous sort of in-between, and of course at the very, very end, you see them in The 100, like see them as they are in the show that we know them from. Which of course is like set a hundred, 200 years in the future.

And then in How to Save a Kingdom, you see their first life together, like who they were when they first met, like who they were, how they got to know each other, what was it that caused this like insane cross generational, like universal love and it’s so, so good. It’s so well written. It’s written by one of the like, best, fanfic writers for the 100 that I go back to constantly. And it’s very, very, very, very, very, very good. So

Talia Franks: You’re making me want to watch The 100 just so that I can read the fic.

Lucia Kelly: I mean, you don’t have to, I’m not going to put that on you. In terms of watching The 100, I would definitely watch the first season.

I’d definitely watched the second season. The third season starts to get a bit skew with, and then, but like, there are things in it that you’re like, Oh, this is interesting. I would not recommend watching anything past season five, like season five actually has a very good ending for the show as a whole.

And. It’s really not necessary to watch season six and seven. And actually, like actively bad too, for your soul. So, one and two, one and two are excellent. Like they’re brilliant. They do such great work. But after season after that, it’s sort of goes downhill pretty quick, but by then, of course you’re attached to the characters and you’re like, no, I’ll stick it out.

And maybe it’ll get better! And it’s like no, I’m really sorry.

Talia Franks: I’ve got so much on my plate in terms of content to watch. And it’s just like, will I ever get to it? But you know,

Lucia Kelly: but yeah,

Talia Franks: I will try for the sake of the fanfic. I will try the amount of things that I have watched because people have been telling me that I need to read fanfic. 

Lucia Kelly: Well, I mean, again, the beauty of the ones that I have recommended that. The two fanfics I’ve recommended is that they’re basically all AU. So, you really do not need to watch the show to enjoy it. And that’s for everyone else listening as well. Just go read it. It’s good. READ IT!

Talia Franks: Well, see the fun

Lucia Kelly: they deserve so much love.

Talia Franks: in, in your little describing your favorite, fanfic a version of what I was planning to do for the rest of the episode.

Which is to tell you about this other fic only it’s gonna have spoilers for the fic. Nice how you didn’t have spoilers, but I’m gonna

Lucia Kelly: I mean, I definitely included some that they’re the kind of spoilers where you’re like, I didn’t realize it was a spoiler until I read the fic. And then I was like, Oh, that probably would have been better for the reader to find out on their own.

[AD]

 Talia Franks: Yes. So, this fic is a Good Omens fic

and it’s funny. So, this fic is, rated for teen and up audiences. It’s very, very cute. It’s like relatively innocent fic, which is hilarious because most of this author’s work is not safe for work. And every time I get a notification, I have to swipe it away really quickly.

But like, but then I like saw this fic and I read it and I was like, this fic is, not like almost anything else I’ve read by this author and like, I’ve read a lot of fics that I like, from this author, but like this one just like stuck out to me as being like, wow. Okay. But it’s really cute. It’s wonderful.

  It’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s Talia from the future again! I want to clarify here that I’m not at all kink shaming, the author, or anyone who reads their fics other than this one.  I’m simply impressed with their range because some of the fics that they write are impressively pornographic. So, I was surprised to find something in their repertoire that lacks sexual content though I am unsurprised by how sweet it is since they’re an author I know to be excellent at hitting emotional beats.

  So, it’s called polar opposites. It’s by summer of Spock on Ao3 and the summary is: Gabe and Bee are hapless zoo interns just trying to wrangle Aziraphale and Crowley, a polar bear and a penguin who won’t stop breaking into each other’s enclosures.

Lucia Kelly: Oh my God. That’s amazing!  (laughing)

Talia Franks: Yeah. (Both laughing)

Lucia Kelly: That’s incredible. I love this author’s mind…

Talia Franks: It’s pretty great. So apparently there is, apparently there exists a romcom discord that generated this idea, and I don’t know where this.

Lucia Kelly: amazing

Talia Franks: is, but I want to be on it. I kind of want to message them to ask if I could be on the discord, but like I I was not brave enough.

Anyway, so the premise of this fic is that Aziraphale is a polar bear and Crowley is a penguin.

Lucia Kelly: beautiful. Amazing.

Talia Franks: And Gabriel is a zookeeper. And Bee is also a zookeeper, but they are actually zookeeper interns. And so, in this fic so one thing I actually really like about. So, this author writes a lot of AUs.

And one thing I like about, in all of these AUs is that Bee always uses they them pronouns in these AUs and so I really liked that.

Lucia Kelly: Absolutely, brilliant.

Talia Franks: Yeah. And also like, both Gabe and Bee are sweet beans. They’re sweet beans who also like swear a lot and are like really aggressive in there. It’s, it’s a Gabe/Bee fic they’re like, slightly aggressive in their affection for each other.

Lucia Kelly: I mean wouldn’t they wouldn’t, they, I don’t, I don’t, I don’t buy that Gabe and Bee, would ever be sweet to each other, even in like the height of their love.

Talia Franks: They’re not sweet to each other. Like, it is a good and pure fic, but it is also like, but like, there is literally an F-bomb in the third paragraph.

Lucia Kelly: We love that. We love that. (laughs)

Talia Franks: Yeah. And so basically Aziraphale and Crowley are a penguin and a polar bear. And they keep breaking into each other’s enclosures. And so, like they’ve done this in like the very first paragraph and so Bee and Gabe are trying to figure out how do we separate them. And so, the way that they separate them is by launching a pudding cup into polar bear enclosure to distract Aziraphale. He goes straight for the pudding cup and then they’re able to, and then Gabe is able to secure Crowley the penguin with a net and drag him back to his enclosure. And then, and then there’s this moment where, because there, cause the penguin enclosure and the polar bear enclosure are like separated by a wall of glass.

And then you just have like the polar bear Aziraphale and the penguin Crowley, just like looking at each other through the glass and like they have, and it’s just adorable. It’s so pure. But also, so like but it’s from Gabe and Bee’s perspectives and they just think it’s like so weird.

And like the premise of this is basically that Aziraphale and Crowley had been like brought to the zoo together, like, Aziraphale had been a bear that was, someone’s prize, show pet. Like he wasn’t raised in the wild or anything. It was like one of those people who had like a pet bear and they weren’t really supposed to have a pet bear.

And then he like was too domesticated to go out into the wild and so he ended up being like fostered, I guess, with Crowley the penguin. And then they like imprinted on each other and couldn’t like bear to be separated.

 And so, the thing is, is they like keep getting into each other’s enclosures, and then like I think then there was another time they, they get into each other’s enclosures and like they’re too smart for the pudding cup trick.

So, Gabe like goes in there with like a full angel food cake, carrying a whole angel food cake and Aziraphale comes up and like, starts eating the angel food cake from his hands. And like, is just all up on him, like in his face with the angel food cake. And Gabe just has to like, trust that Aziraphale’s not going to eat him like a nice enough bear that he won’t attack him for the cake.

And he just like, has faith while B’s like,

Lucia Kelly: I’ve got this image of Bee, like in full hat, but also Zoo. Uniform. And then this incredibly cocky, incredibly nasty little penguin, just flitting around everywhere. I mean like

Talia Franks: There’s also this moment where Bee is like trying to feed the penguins and the penguins have surrounded them. And So, they’re up on a rock and the penguins are all surrounding Bee and just sorta like squawking at them.

And like Gabe comes in and like, shoos was all the penguins away. And then Bee is like, I didn’t ask you to do that. And it’s like pissed off at him for like rescuing them. Like, I didn’t need to be like rescued by you. And it’s just like, and like when they have their, like an another time when like, they, they were like trying to get Aziraphale and Crowley separated.

And they were like and they were and like, Aziraphale and Crowley where like in each other’s enclosure until really late at night and they couldn’t. And so, they like were staying at the zoo until really late at night and like, so Gabe offered to drive, Bee home. And then they were like, you know, in the driveway and then they like kissed in the driveway.

And then, so like Gabe kissed them and then Bee’s like, why did you do that? And then he’s like, because I wanted to, and then they’re like, do it again.

Yeah.

Lucia Kelly: Yaas! What was that? Affection. I hate it. Do it again. Yeah.

Talia Franks: But, but of course, like Gabe was like really awkward about it because like, because he’s like, why did I do that?

Like, like we hate each other. Like, why, like, why do I like you so much? Like, this is weird. And then of course Bee takes offense to that because they’re like

Lucia Kelly: this wasn’t in the employee handbook.

Talia Franks: Yeah. Like what is going on? Like, and so like, they’re both annoyed by how much they like each other. Like, it’s just, it’s just hilarious.

 And like the combination of it being Bee and Gabe, and also the combination of it being awkward teenage romance is just hilarious because like the implication is that the summer before their senior year,

Lucia Kelly: Oh, wow. So really young?

Talia Franks: Yeah. Like the implication is that this is an internship that they’re doing before they finish high school so that they can get good jobs for after college.

 And there’s like this also really funny moment where Gabe says that he wants to be a zookeeper. And and so like, that’s why he’s like really serious about this job and doesn’t want to get fired. And then Bee says that they’re also serious about the job because they want to be a veterinarian and then Gabe is like, well, that’s like the same thing.

And then Bee like, no, like veterinarians are doctors.

But like when it comes down to it, like they both just really care about animals.  And like, they’re so adorable.

Lucia Kelly: Amazing.

Talia Franks: They’re so adorable, and then Aziraphale and Crowley, like get together and then finally they’re in their enclosure and the pudding isn’t working.

And like, the zoo is open they don’t like, they can’t try the cake and like they’re in front of like all of like people are taking pictures and asking if they can put them on Instagram and then they try to go into head office and then Michael won’t let them see head office.

And then. Michael’s like, this is too important. And head office, can’t see you. And then Gabriel is like, even though there’s a penguin in the polar bear enclosure or I forget if I forget if Aziraphale was in the penguin enclosure,

Lucia Kelly: that would definitely be a bigger issue I would think.

Talia Franks: polar bear in the penguin enclosure.

I think Yeah, but, and then Aziraphale, and Crowley are like playing together and the other penguins are freaking out. Yeah. That’s what it was.  And people were taking pictures on Instagram. And then and then. Michael or maybe that was the moment with the food angel food cake. I don’t remember.

I like read this like yesterday so that I could prepare to talk to you about it. And I already forgot about it. Cause I’ve read like two books since then read too like. Maybe there’s not a such thing as reading too much, but I also, I just read a lot. I’ve literally read like a book and a half since I read this fic, because I’ve just,

Lucia Kelly: I worry about you.

I worry about you that’s too much.

Talia Franks: Well, no so I read the thing and I was like, great, I read the fic and then yeah, no, what’s the date Monday. Yeah, so I read the fic on Friday and then I read like, so I read two books Friday night, and then I read a book on Saturday and then I read another, another book on Sunday and then I read like half of a fic Sunday night.

So yeah, I’ve read a few things.

Lucia Kelly: I mean power to you, but like, couldn’t be me.

Talia Franks: when I said, well, actually, no, I didn’t read two books on Friday. Like I read. I read a book on Friday night and then I’ve read a book like starting Friday night until 2:30 AM Saturday. Okay. I do this thing where I do a digital Sabbath of Friday, nights to Saturday nights, like Friday on sundown to Saturday on sundown.

So, like, I don’t have anything, like, I don’t do anything digital, and I don’t do anything that like, is like, except for relax and read books. So, you know, sometimes I just read books a lot. So, during this week Sabbath, I just read three books because, and I slept a lot. That’s what I do.

So, so anyway, so there’s a polar bear in the penguin enclosure and it’s chaos. People want to put it on Instagram and. Then Gabe is like, but what if we just let them put it on Instagram?

Lucia Kelly: Business opportunities!  (Laughter)

Talia Franks: And then Gabe is like “Marketing!”

Lucia Kelly: I mean, I mean, it makes sense. It makes sense to Gabe to channel his inner Don Draper. That’s all I’m saying.

Talia Franks: Yeah. So, but yeah, and then, so the interns end up managing the social media account and. Aziraphale and Crowley, the penguin and the polar bear end up being immensely successful attractions at the zoo.

Lucia Kelly: who would have guessed?

Talia Franks:  Fun times for all.

Lucia Kelly: Adorable. Ten out of ten.

Talia Franks: So, that was the fic I had for you today.

Lucia Kelly: Thank you for sharing it with me. I truly appreciate it. And I will definitely be reading it now.

Talia Franks: Yeah, yeah. That was actually going to be my, my next question was, would you read this fic?

Lucia Kelly:  Yes. A hundred percent. Absolutely.

Talia Franks: Good.

Lucia Kelly: I will probably be doing it immediately.

Actually. Do you know what I’m going to be doing? As soon as we finish this, I’m going to be read reading. Oh, by the way, I found the two fics.  It’s How You Stay Alive and How to Save a Kingdom. They’re both by LaughingSenselessly. I will be reading those and then I will be reading Polar Opposites.

Like bang bang bang, because it’s been a minute,

Talia Franks: Polar Opposites is like less than 8,000 words. You should read it first.

Lucia Kelly: Okay. And then I might just reread all of LaughingSenselessly’s like entire works because it’s a good time and everyone involved deserves it.

Talia Franks: Yeah, based on what I’ve heard about the 100, like they deserve nice things.

So.

Lucia Kelly: Yeah, the other one it was interesting. You talking about putting it on Instagram. That’s another really fun trope within fanfic I find is intertextuality when the author will put in, like, depending on whether it’s like reality TV show AU, or whether it’s like popular people.

So, like people, the characters in worlds have their own little fandoms. And so, you get all of these little sort of inserts from, like outside viewers in the world. Ooh, are they getting together? Or like I saw, I saw them on the bridge across from the coffee shop, what?! And all of this sort of intertextual stuff, or like even there’s another 100 fanfic, which is written as a Band AU you and it’s written as an article for The Rolling Stone, like the entire thing, it’s an article for The Rolling Stone, but it’s about a band made up from all of the characters within The 100. And like that is also like excellent. Like all of that kind of stuff that messes with different media types is just 100% my jam.

Talia Franks: You’re reminding me of, and this wasn’t a candidate for this podcast because it’s a Star Trek fic and I don’t actually watch star Trek. I don’t normally read Star Trek fic, but my partner does. And he recommended this fic to me, which it’s called star Trek PBS by hellotailor.

 So, it’s a Star Trek original series slash Star Trek, alternate original series movies fic. And the general premise is that all the it’s kind of weird. So, it’s an AU.  Kirk, Spock, like all of them are like regular humans who get cast to be in a reality TV show where they pretend to be on a spaceship.

So like

Lucia Kelly: yes,

Talia Franks: pretend that are on the star ship enterprise. So, there they are reality TV actors pretending to be on the Starship enterprise. And so, the fic includes fake Twitter posts. And fake articles from different places. And it’s weird because it’s reality TV show this being put on by PBS because it’s like supposedly educational.

It’s like wild and I love it and it hasn’t updated it in a while. And I’m so sad the thing is I don’t go there with star Trek but I’m still like into it.

Lucia Kelly: Yeah, no, that’s awesome. I love that.

Talia Franks: I don’t know, if you go there with star Trek, I didn’t give it to you as an option because I don’t I don’t, I don’t, I don’t go there with star Trek, so I wasn’t going to mention it, but it’s really good.

I get so

Lucia Kelly: yeah. Awesome. The Rolling Stone article fic by the way is called The Feel-Good Hit of the Summer. It’s by disco_vendetta. But yeah, it’s also very good.

Talia Franks: It’s yeah, these, ah, I love fanfic,

Lucia Kelly: So good. It’s such a

Talia Franks: It’s why I had to make a podcast about it.

But yeah, so. Where can our listeners find you on the interwebs?

Lucia Kelly: You can find me on Twitter and tumbler. Mostly on Twitter. I am at luciaroseanne spelled L U C I A R O S E A N N E. And then on Tumblr little-oxford-st, L I T T L E underscore, no mid dash hyper dash, whatever it is. The one that’s in the middle, Oxford like the uni dash street just S T. I’ll be on there. I’ll probably still be hyper fixated on the grinning man, the musical. So come and talk to me about that literally. Anytime.

 Talia Franks: Thank you, Lucia, for joining me for this episode of, Into the Archives now. Okay, well, why am I, why am I so awkward? I’m always awkward. And, you know, I’m always awkward cause we talked to each other a lot. And why do we talk to each other a lot?

Lucia Kelly: Because we have our very own podcast. It’s very exciting.

Talia Franks: Oh, my goodness. We have our own podcast.

Lucia Kelly: It’s about Doctor Who! It’s called The Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey Podcast. We’re going through each episode of Doctor Who one by one, talking about it in great and elaborate detail.  Yeah, it’s been a fun journey so far.

Talia Franks: Yeah. It’s been a whole lot of fun. I’m a media critic, fanfic enthusiast and among other things, a paperback with a sad ending, a repeated meme and a means of keeping oneself cool.

Lucia Kelly: And I’m an expert at applied analysis of vial of antineoplastic, a bitchy trampoline and a key to the rift

Talia Franks: and so much more,

Lucia Kelly: so much more,

Talia Franks:  so much more, but we’ll get there.

Lucia Kelly: We’ll get there. We need a little bumper sticker that we could like slap on the Tardis. We’ll get there.

Talia Franks: our first episodes are going to be coming out in May. If you want to keep, (Lucia makes a noise of glee) if you want to keep up with us, you can follow us on Instagram and Twitter at @WibblyPod.

  You’ve been listening to Into the Archives, a fanfiction podcast from Talia Franks. You can find us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook at @ArchivesPod. Join the party, send me your favorite fanfics and memes. You can also send us an email at [email protected] or visit our website intothearchivespod.com. And if you’re sick of me pretending I’m not just the one person behind this podcast, you can find me, Talia Franks, at @talia_franks on Twitter and Instagram. I’d also love to have your support on Patreon, where you can find me at patreon.com/taliafranks and find Into the Archives related perks and more. Have a good night, and try not to stay up too late reading fanfic. Do as I say, not as I do.